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AuthorTopic: Dhole v Giant Otter (Read 73 times)
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Re: Dhole v Giant Otter
« Result #1 Today at 10:23pm »
I always thought giant otters were heavier than that? I thought they could reach more like 100 lbs?
Either way, I don't think a giant river otter should be considered a slouch at all at parity. I would expect one to beat a dhole if it had a 10 kg weight advantage, and wouldn't be easy without a weight advantage, which is no disrespect to the dhole. Giant otters are pretty serious animals. If I'm not mistaken they've killed caiman?
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Re: Deer vs Dog and Cat
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Today at 8:47pm, Taipan wrote:

Today at 7:22pm, Mightybadger wrote:
Cougars are on average superior to wolves, due to their weight advantage. When they are similar weighted Iīd rather doubt that.


Even at equal weights. Strength, speed, agility, grappling ability and additional weaponary favor the cougar.


Today at 7:22pm, Mightybadger wrote:

Now to the difference between Scandinavia and America: Well, maybe they are unexperienced. But still there are dozends of adult elks killed by single wolves. I doubt that each of them would prevail if they were less naive... And as mentioned before in many cases alpha males do the killing, not the whole pack. When a pack brings down a moose, then itīs not a big difference to an older male bringing down a moose without the pack. I saw a video of a single wolf easily bringing down a healthy rather big elk in YNP. An elk is not a moose, but seeing how easily the wolf brings the elk down, itīs not so hard to believe that he could prevail against a moose cow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqkBX2oGWOw
(note he easily brings the elk down without the pack)

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Its probably best you keep claims of single wolves killing adult moose in perspective. Wolverines have killed adult moose too, but there were clear reasons behind that too.

And yet, cougars don't kill adult moose, let alone musk ox or bison. Wolves have singlehandedly killed all of the above. I guess the cougar's superiority over wolves, at parity or otherwise, is an illusion.
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Strength, speed, agility, grappling ability and additional weaponary favor the cougar.

Is an inadequate and flawed analysis, as wolves actually prove themselves superior by taking larger more dangerous prey. The above attributes aren't the be all and end all, there's more to it and the proof is in the pudding.
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AuthorTopic: Burn the Quran day! (Read 43 times)
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Re: Burn the Quran day!
« Result #3 Today at 9:57pm »
Here is the thing yeltsinghost. Sure the pastor is a retard for doing this, and it will anger many people around the world just like the mohamed cartoons did. But really, what pisses people of more? Living under occupation and martial law (Iraq/Afganistan) having their people tortured and blown to bitts, or some inbreed burning your holy book. The media is hyping this cuz now they can blame the killing and opposition of US/coalition troops on somebody imo.

Lars Vilks a swedish inbreed like this pastor made gay pictures of mohamed to piss people of. the result? see for yourself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRQIkUO4ods
Thats about how extreem it got lol.
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AuthorTopic: Dhole v Giant Otter (Read 73 times)
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Re: Dhole v Giant Otter
« Result #4 Today at 9:35pm »

May 12, 2010, 12:05pm, Tigerfan555 wrote:

May 12, 2010, 10:00am, Cannidae wrote:
I vote for the dhole. Not only due to its much better killing weapons; but due to the fact it much easier to think of the dhole killing the otter than vice versa.


yes it does sound more resonable that the dhole kills the otter but i don't think the otter will be brought down easy and it could perhaps detour the dhole by not trying to run and standing it's ground


Well its a Mustelide regardless of its aquatic lifestyle, which would be very hard for the dhole to kill.
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AuthorTopic: Scott's cool predator vs predator(FOR ALL TO POST (Read 7,134 times)
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« Result #5 Today at 9:35pm »
I think I was confusing Bambiraptor with Variraptor.
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AuthorTopic: Megistotherium v Harlan's Ground Sloth (Read 196 times)
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Re: Megistotherium v Harlan's Ground Sloth
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Apr 21, 2010, 9:49am, Tigerfan555 wrote:
wow this is the first i have ever heard of the megistotherium it is incredable! So it was the largest carnivorous mammals ever?


Thought to be, yes.
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AuthorTopic: Obediance trained timber wolf (Read 23 times)
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Re: Obediance trained timber wolf
« Result #7 Today at 9:21pm »
Nice wolf... what can I say. They behave according to their instincts. Wolves have been killed by humans for centuries, of course they are shy. Still an adult male from the northern hemisphere will rip a great pyrenee or a kangal without a spiked collar open easily....

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donīt mess with the mighty badger!!


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AuthorTopic: Moved: Dog vs. Shark ... in the water, no less (Read 5 times)
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Moved: Dog vs. Shark ... in the water, no less
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There was a time when America's Great Plains teemed with charismatic megafauna; that time will come again.


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AuthorTopic: Wild Boar vs Pygmy Hippo (Read 203 times)
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Re: Wild Boar vs Pygmy Hippo
« Result #9 Today at 9:18pm »

Mar 11, 2008, 11:15am, Richardrli wrote:
For all intents and purposes, it basically is a blob of meat waiting to be eaten/killed.


Do these pygmy hippo tusks look lethal?

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Re: Deer vs Dog and Cat
« Result #10 Today at 8:47pm »

Today at 7:22pm, Mightybadger wrote:
Cougars are on average superior to wolves, due to their weight advantage. When they are similar weighted Iīd rather doubt that.


Even at equal weights. Strength, speed, agility, grappling ability and additional weaponary favor the cougar.


Today at 7:22pm, Mightybadger wrote:

Now to the difference between Scandinavia and America: Well, maybe they are unexperienced. But still there are dozends of adult elks killed by single wolves. I doubt that each of them would prevail if they were less naive... And as mentioned before in many cases alpha males do the killing, not the whole pack. When a pack brings down a moose, then itīs not a big difference to an older male bringing down a moose without the pack. I saw a video of a single wolf easily bringing down a healthy rather big elk in YNP. An elk is not a moose, but seeing how easily the wolf brings the elk down, itīs not so hard to believe that he could prevail against a moose cow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqkBX2oGWOw
(note he easily brings the elk down without the pack)

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Its probably best you keep claims of single wolves killing adult moose in perspective. Wolverines have killed adult moose too, but there were clear reasons behind that too.
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